4BR Editor Iwan Fox talks to Brass Bands England CEO, Kenny Crookston to cover topics from the decision advise member bands not to perform at the West of England and North of England Areas to what happens when banding returns.

The conversation also covers the ongoing work of BBE at this time with the on-line Artistic Development seminars, the organisation's funding from Arts Council England, its current banding survey and his belief that the current lockdown offers the opportunity to work in partnership with others for the long term benefit of banding in the UK.

Apologies for the odd interruption from the 4BR Editor's dog!