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How to pick a winner at Preston? 4BR tries to work out the failsafe method of predicting how things will pan out on 'Eden'.

English National
 

There may only be nine bands in the field to choose from on Saturday, but trying to find a formula to pick a winner before a note is blown can be a complicated business.

Easiest way?

The easiest way of course is to trust in the 4BR predictions (we sense raised eyebrows already).

If you did have any spare cash to invest in the local bookies at Preston then by following the 4BR predictions you would come up with the following result.

1. Black Dyke
2. Foden’s
3. Rothwell Temperance
4. Leyland
5. Fairey (Geneva)
6. Reg Vardy
7. Pemberton Old Wigan DW
8. Hammonds Saltaire
9. Skelmanthorpe

http://www.4barsrest.com/articles/2010/1151d.asp


So which tipster do you follow – the scientific approaches of the stats men or the heart and soul guesswork of the 4BR team or the bookies4BR

4BR/World of Brass Rankings:

If however, you based your predictions purely on the current 4BR/World of Brass rankings, the result should pan out as follows:

1. Foden’s
2. Black Dyke
3. Leyland
4. Rothwell Temperance
5. Fairey (Geneva)
6. Reg Vardy
7. Hammonds Saltaire
8. Pemberton Old Wigan DW
9. Skelmanthorpe

http://www.4barsrest.com/rankings/


Brassstats.com

By following the current Brassstats.com Ranking list you could well end up with a final prize list as follows:

1. Black Dyke
2. Foden’s
3. Rothwell Temperance
4. Leyland
5. Fairey (Geneva)
6. Reg Vardy
7. Pemberton Old Wigan DW
8. Skelmanthorpe
9. Hammonds Saltaire

http://brassstats.com/default.aspx


4BR Money List

If on the other hand, you opt for the 4BR Money List as a guide to current form, then the result could well pan out as follows:

1. Fairey (Geneva)
2. Foden’s
3. Rothwell Temperance
4. Leyland
5. Black Dyke
6. Pembeton Old Wigan DW
7. Hammonds Saltaire
8. Reg Vardy
9. Skelmanthorpe

http://www.4barsrest.com/news/detail.asp?offset=100&id=11729


Paddy Flower bookies

Finally, the unofficial brass band bookie that is the excellent Paddy Flower on themouthpiece.com would see you putting your hard earned dosh on:

1. Black Dyke
2. Foden’s
3. Rothwell Temperance
4. Fairey (Geneva)
5. Leyland
6. Reg Vardy
7. Pemberton Old Wigan DW
8. Hammonds Saltaire
9. Skelmanthorpe

http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40210&page=6

Which tipster to follow?

So which tipster do you follow – the scientific approaches of the stats men or the heart and soul guesswork of the 4BR team or the bookies.

Come to think of it – what system will Derek Broadbent, David Horsfield and Kevin Wadsworth follow in the box?

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