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4BarsRest's analyses all the combinations of results from the
All England Masters 2001.
Welcome to anorak heaven. We’ve spent a lot of time and energy
putting these various tables together so that you can spend an unhealthy
amount of time pouring over the endless permutations three men in
a box can get up to.
First up is the one that really counted. Conspiracy theorists will
point out that YBS again fell at the last – just like 1998 and the
G. Brand fiasco. Two 1st places and a 7th just don’t quite add up
do they, and it’s a bit galling to lose out to a band that wins
the contest for a second time without actually being placed 1st
by any adjudicator on either occasion. Still – you pay your money
and you get your results.
|
Result
|
Band |
RN
|
JS
|
GW
|
Total
|
|
1
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick |
3
|
3
|
2
|
8
|
|
2
|
Yorkshire
Building Society |
7
|
1
|
1
|
9
|
|
3
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery |
2
|
4
|
10
|
16
|
|
4
|
Fodens
Courtois |
5
|
6
|
5
|
16
|
|
5
|
Flowers |
13
|
2
|
4
|
19
|
|
6
|
DUT Yorkshire
Imperial Rothwell |
1
|
10
|
9
|
20
|
|
7
|
Ever Ready |
8
|
9
|
6
|
23
|
|
8
|
NSK RHP
Ransome |
4
|
12
|
8
|
24
|
|
9
|
Williams
Fairey |
15
|
7
|
3
|
25
|
|
10
|
Besses
o th Barn |
9
|
8
|
15
|
32
|
|
11
|
Rothwell
Temperance |
12
|
5
|
16
|
33
|
|
12
|
Bodmin
Town |
10
|
13
|
11
|
34
|
|
13
|
Leyland |
6
|
14
|
18
|
38
|
|
14
|
First
City Brass |
11
|
15
|
12
|
38
|
|
15
|
Sellers
International |
14
|
11
|
14
|
39
|
|
16
|
Todmorden
Old |
17
|
18
|
7
|
42
|
|
17
|
JAG Mount
Charles Band |
16
|
19
|
13
|
48
|
|
18
|
Travelsphere
Holidays |
18
|
17
|
19
|
54
|
|
19
|
Aveley
& Newham |
20
|
16
|
20
|
56
|
|
20
|
SWT Woodfalls |
19
|
21
|
17
|
57
|
|
21
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band |
21
|
20
|
21
|
62
|
Note 1 - Where aggregate score is equal, J Scott position overrides.
The second set of tables gives the combined totals that would have
occurred if there were only two men in the box – and this is where
it starts to get a bit more interesting. If Roy and Jim were together
then it would have been a Brighouse, Carlton Main, YBS, Fodens,
Yorkshire Imps, Flowers top six – but Roy and Geoff would have come
up with Brighouse, YBS, Yorkshire Imps, Fodens, Carlton Main and
Ransomes. Jim and Geoff would have had YBS, Brighouse, Flowers,
Fairey’s, Fodens and Carlton Main.
| R
Newsome / J Scott -In the Box |
|
Result
|
Band |
|
1
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick |
|
2
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery |
|
3
|
Yorkshire
Building Society |
|
4
|
Fodens
Courtois |
|
5
|
DUT
Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell |
|
6
|
Flowers |
|
7
|
NSK
RHP Ransome |
|
8
|
Rothwell
Temperance |
|
9
|
Besses
o th Barn |
|
10
|
Ever
Ready |
|
11
|
Leyland |
|
12
|
Williams
Fairey |
|
13
|
Bodmin
Town |
|
14
|
Sellers
International |
|
15
|
First
City Brass |
|
16
|
Travelsphere
Holidays |
|
17
|
Todmorden
Old |
|
18
|
JAG
Mount Charles Band |
|
19
|
Aveley
& Newham |
|
20
|
SWT
Woodfalls |
|
21
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band |
| |
|
|
R
Newsome / G Witham - In the Box
|
|
Result
|
Band
|
|
|
|
1
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick
|
|
|
2
|
Yorkshire
Building Society
|
|
3
|
DUT
Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell
|
|
4
|
Fodens
Courtois
|
|
|
5
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery
|
|
6
|
NSK
RHP Ransome
|
|
|
7
|
Ever
Ready
|
|
|
|
8
|
Flowers
|
|
|
|
9
|
Williams
Fairey
|
|
|
10
|
Bodmin
Town
|
|
|
11
|
First
City Brass
|
|
|
12
|
Leyland
|
|
|
|
13
|
Besses
o th Barn
|
|
|
14
|
Todmorden
Old
|
|
|
15
|
Rothwell
Temperance
|
|
|
16
|
Sellers
International
|
|
|
17
|
JAG
Mount Charles Band
|
|
18
|
SWT
Woodfalls
|
|
|
19
|
Travelsphere
Holidays
|
|
|
20
|
Aveley
& Newham
|
|
|
21
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band
|
| |
|
| J
Scott / G Whitham - In the Box |
|
Result
|
Band |
|
1
|
Yorkshire
Building Society |
|
2
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick |
|
3
|
Flowers |
|
4
|
Williams
Fairey |
|
5
|
Fodens
Courtois |
|
6
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery |
|
7
|
Ever
Ready |
|
8
|
DUT
Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell |
|
9
|
NSK
RHP Ransome |
|
10
|
Rothwell
Temperance |
|
11
|
Besses
o th Barn |
|
12
|
Bodmin
Town |
|
13
|
Sellers
International |
|
14
|
Todmorden
Old |
|
15
|
First
City Brass |
|
16
|
Leyland |
|
17
|
JAG
Mount Charles Band |
|
18
|
Aveley
& Newham |
|
19
|
Travelsphere
Holidays |
|
20
|
SWT
Woodfalls |
|
21
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band |
Note 2 - Newsome / Whitham In Box - Newsome position overrides.
The last set gives the results if only one of the three would have
been left alone to give his verdict. This is where it gets seriously
obscure. Roy Newsome would have had to explain a top six that didn’t
include YBS and gave the title to DUT Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell,
whilst both James Scott and Geoff Whitham would have had YBS making
it a hat trick, but would also have seen both Rothwell Temperance
and Ever Ready (neither of which in the top six when the judges
were paired together)
|
R
Newsome Only - In the Box
|
|
Result
|
Band
|
|
1
|
DUT
Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell
|
|
2
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery
|
|
3
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick
|
|
4
|
Flowers
|
|
5
|
Fodens
Courtois
|
|
6
|
Leyland
|
|
7
|
Yorkshire
Building Society
|
|
8
|
Ever
Ready
|
|
9
|
Besses
o th Barn
|
|
10
|
Bodmin
Town
|
|
11
|
First
City Brass
|
|
12
|
Rothwell
Temperance
|
|
13
|
Flowers
|
|
14
|
Sellers
International
|
|
15
|
Williams
Fairey
|
|
16
|
JAG
Mount Charles Band
|
|
17
|
Todmorden
Old
|
|
18
|
Travelsphere
Holidays
|
|
19
|
SWT
Woodfalls
|
|
20
|
Aveley
& Newham
|
|
21
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band
|
|
J
Scott Only - In the Box
|
|
Result
|
Band
|
|
1
|
Yorkshire
Building Society
|
|
2
|
Flowers
|
|
3
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick
|
|
4
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery
|
|
5
|
Rothwell
Temperance
|
|
6
|
Fodens
Courtois
|
|
7
|
Williams
Fairey
|
|
8
|
Besses
o th Barn
|
|
9
|
Ever
Ready
|
|
10
|
DUT
Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell
|
|
11
|
Sellers
International
|
|
12
|
NSK
RHP Ransome
|
|
13
|
Bodmin
Town
|
|
14
|
Leyland
|
|
15
|
First
City Brass
|
|
16
|
Aveley
& Newham
|
|
17
|
Travelsphere
Holidays
|
|
18
|
Todmorden
Old
|
|
19
|
JAG
Mount Charles Band
|
|
20
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band
|
|
21
|
SWT
Woodfalls
|
|
G
Witham Only - In the Box
|
|
Result
|
Band
|
|
1
|
Yorkshire
Building Society
|
|
2
|
Brighouse
& Rastrick
|
|
3
|
Williams
Fairey
|
|
4
|
Flowers
|
|
5
|
Fodens
Courtois
|
|
6
|
Ever
Ready
|
|
7
|
Todmorden
Old
|
|
8
|
NSK
RHP Ransome
|
|
9
|
DUT
Yorkshire Imperial Rothwell
|
|
10
|
Carlton
Main Frickley Colliery
|
|
11
|
Bodmin
Town
|
|
12
|
First
City Brass
|
|
13
|
JAG
Mount Charles Band
|
|
14
|
Sellers
International
|
|
15
|
Besses
o th Barn
|
|
16
|
Rothwell
Temperance
|
|
17
|
SWT
Woodfalls
|
|
18
|
Leyland
|
|
19
|
Travelsphere
Holidays
|
|
20
|
Aveley
& Newham
|
|
21
|
Rolls
Royce Coventry Band
|
Overall:
There are lies, damn lies and statistics – so you can spend as
much time as you want making out what you want from what we published.
The hard truth though is that Brighouse were the Champions and everyone
else had to make other arrangements.
As for the future? Well you can either go down the road and get
five judges to pass their verdict and drop the top and bottom mark
to give a fairer average, or you stick by what you’ve got and hope
such a big anomaly doesn’t happen again. Given that bands are such
a conservative lot and the bands that did well this year won’t want
to change their luck, it could be a long time before a more perfect
system comes into force.
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